Generating visible waves from an acoustic waveguide

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Re: Generating visible waves from an acoustic waveguide

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Elmer itself is unitless, but your material constants are SI so length should be meters.
In the unv file node 1 is 50.8, 50.8, node 6 is 50.8, -50.8
node 2 is 0, 9.5625 and Node 5 is 0, -9.525
so scaling by 0.001 would give mm
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1 1 1 11
5.0799999999999997D+01 5.0799999999999997D+01 0.0000000000000000D+00
2 1 1 11
8.5635224561320102D-15 9.5250000000000004D+00 0.0000000000000000D+00
3 1 1 11
5.0800000000000303D+01 2.0000000000000000D+03 0.0000000000000000D+00
4 1 1 11
5.0799999999999699D+01 -2.0000000000000000D+03 0.0000000000000000D+00
5 1 1 11
6.2305702972287401D-15 -9.5250000000000004D+00 0.0000000000000000D+00
6 1 1 11
5.0799999999999699D+01 -5.0799999999999898D+01 0.0000000000000000D+00
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Re: Generating visible waves from an acoustic waveguide

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OK I'm confused. Attached are two screen shots of the solution at 2000 Hz. One is of the magnitude and the other of the X vector only. The magnitude shows very little in the way of wave motion. The X vector shows strong periodic wave motion and corresponds to the proper number of waves for the 2 m distance of the model. The Y vector seems to be exactly out of phase with the X vector leaving the magnitude equal to zero. I am not sure how to interpret this. Associating X and Y pressure vectors with X and Y Cartesian measurements is not computing well in my brain. It would seem that the magnitude would be the only thing of importance as far as sound volume is concerned. If that is true then the output of the waveguide is essentially zero. I find that hard to believe. At 3KHz the simulation starts to fail, which was pointed out earlier.

Comments would be sincerely appreciated.

Gary R.
Attachments
Helmholtz2000X.png
X vector only
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Helmholtz2000Mag.png
Magnitude of X and Y vectors
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Re: Generating visible waves from an acoustic waveguide

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Hi

Paraview does not support complex numbers so you should think of _x as the Real component and _y as the Imaginary component.

-Peter
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Thanks Peter. Makes sense. I guess the only thing left to do is adjust the mesh for higher frequencies.

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Re: Generating visible waves from an acoustic waveguide

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Well I finally got back to the project and got results. Though not quit the results I wanted. The horn seems to have some directionality at higher frequency. I will add the cif file and a screen shot as soon as I find out why I can't load attachments. I'm going to try setting up the same problem with Navier Stokes to see if the results are better.
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