Anisotropic materials
Anisotropic materials
Hello,
Does Elmer allows to define anisotropic materials ?
I didn't saw any option to define several Youngs modulus and Poisson ratio (which is important in anisotropic materials definition).
If somebody has any information, please let me know
Does Elmer allows to define anisotropic materials ?
I didn't saw any option to define several Youngs modulus and Poisson ratio (which is important in anisotropic materials definition).
If somebody has any information, please let me know
Re: Anisotropic materials
Hi AlexR,
Yes Elmer allows you to define anisotropic materials.
It is specified in the linear elasticity solver of Elmer Models Manual as following:
These are defined in the material section of the solver input file (SIF).
The Youngs Modulus/Modulii are defined as scalar for isotropic materials whereas matrix for anisotropic material.
Yours
Anil Kunwar
Yes Elmer allows you to define anisotropic materials.
It is specified in the linear elasticity solver of Elmer Models Manual as following:
The keywords related to anisotropy are:ElmerModelsManual wrote:For anisotropic materials, the stress-strain relations may be given in somewhat different form:
τV = EεV ,
...
The matrix E is given as input for the anisotropic material model of Elmer.
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Rotate Elasticity Tensor = Logical True
and
Material Coordinates Unit Vector i (3) , i =1,2,3
The Youngs Modulus/Modulii are defined as scalar for isotropic materials whereas matrix for anisotropic material.
Yours
Anil Kunwar
Anil Kunwar
Faculty of Mechanical Engineering, Silesian University of Technology, Gliwice
Faculty of Mechanical Engineering, Silesian University of Technology, Gliwice
Re: Anisotropic materials
Thank you a lot for this answer. I'll see it and make a feedback
Re: Anisotropic materials
Hello,
I inserted the following code in the material section of the .sif file.
You can have good results, but the problem is the following : after using the solver, these code lines are erased.
I think it comes from the fact that I use Elmer GUI to load the project and then launch the solver.
- Do you think it is a non-GUI problem ? (it seems like the Tutorial 13 in the Elmer Tutorials Manual)
- In this way, how to work using Elmer GUI ?
I inserted the following code in the material section of the .sif file.
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Material 1
Name = "Mat1"
Density = 7500
Poisson Ratio = 0.30
Youngs Modulus = 200e9
Rotate Elasticity Tensor = Logical True
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 1(3) Real [0.7170 0.7170 0]
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 2(3) Real [-0.7170 0.7170 0]
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 3(3) Real [0 0 1]
End
I think it comes from the fact that I use Elmer GUI to load the project and then launch the solver.
- Do you think it is a non-GUI problem ? (it seems like the Tutorial 13 in the Elmer Tutorials Manual)
- In this way, how to work using Elmer GUI ?
Re: Anisotropic materials
Hi,
ElmerGUI overwrites the sif file each time you save your project with the values you have entered. All changes you make to the sif file are lost. But you can add a new material with Model->Material->Add, and use the free text field for properties you don't find a field for.
HTH,
Matthias
ElmerGUI overwrites the sif file each time you save your project with the values you have entered. All changes you make to the sif file are lost. But you can add a new material with Model->Material->Add, and use the free text field for properties you don't find a field for.
HTH,
Matthias
Re: Anisotropic materials
Hi AlexR,
Yes, if you use Elmer nonGUI, it is quite easy to modify the things in SIF.
Since ElmerGUI has some limitations, it is sometimes like
"All ElmerGUI tutorials can be run with ElmernonGUI method, but all ElmernonGUI tutorials cannot be run using the ElmerGUI so far now".
You can give ElmernonGUI a try.
Yours
Anil Kunwar
Yes, if you use Elmer nonGUI, it is quite easy to modify the things in SIF.
Since ElmerGUI has some limitations, it is sometimes like
"All ElmerGUI tutorials can be run with ElmernonGUI method, but all ElmernonGUI tutorials cannot be run using the ElmerGUI so far now".
You can give ElmernonGUI a try.
Yours
Anil Kunwar
Anil Kunwar
Faculty of Mechanical Engineering, Silesian University of Technology, Gliwice
Faculty of Mechanical Engineering, Silesian University of Technology, Gliwice
Re: Anisotropic materials
Thank you mzenker and annier for your reply.
I saw in the material section (Model ->Material->Add...-> Linear Elasticity) that you can define the Youngs Modulus matrix and/or rotate the elasticity tensor.
The Youngs Modulus definition seems correct using Elmer GUI, but I saw a mistake in the elasticity tensor rotation.
For example you want to make a 45° rotation across the z axis (3-axis in Elmer). The standard code would be
But Elmer generates the .sif file with this code
It involves that results are false.I don't understand why the sif generation does this error...
Do you have an idea about this ?
Yours.
Alex
I saw in the material section (Model ->Material->Add...-> Linear Elasticity) that you can define the Youngs Modulus matrix and/or rotate the elasticity tensor.
The Youngs Modulus definition seems correct using Elmer GUI, but I saw a mistake in the elasticity tensor rotation.
For example you want to make a 45° rotation across the z axis (3-axis in Elmer). The standard code would be
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Material 1
Name = "Mat1"
Density = 7500
Poisson Ratio = 0.30
Youngs Modulus = 200e9
Rotate Elasticity Tensor = Logical True
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 1(3) Real [0.7170 0.7170 0]
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 2(3) Real [-0.7170 0.7170 0]
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 3(3) Real [0 0 1]
End
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Material 1
Name = "Mat1"
Density = 7500
Poisson Ratio = 0.30
Youngs Modulus = 200e9
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 1(3) Real [0.7170 0.7170 0]
Rotate Elasticity Tensor = Logical True
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 2(3) Real [-0.7170 0.7170 0]
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 3(3) Real [0 0 1]
End
Do you have an idea about this ?
Yours.
Alex
Re: Anisotropic materials
Hmmm, are we sure that order matters in this case?
If you open the sif file in the GUI (Sif->Edit), correct the order in the material declaration, save the sif and run the solver, does that change the results?
Matthias
If you open the sif file in the GUI (Sif->Edit), correct the order in the material declaration, save the sif and run the solver, does that change the results?
Matthias
Re: Anisotropic materials
Hi !
I come back to this subject because the matrix definition is the following.
You have to insert these lines in the Material definition into the .sif file :
(make the same thing using a 6x6 matrix if you have a 3D model).
But it stays another question :
What are data in the matrix ? Does the matrix defines the rigidity matrix or anything else ?
I come back to this subject because the matrix definition is the following.
You have to insert these lines in the Material definition into the .sif file :
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Youngs Modulus (3,3) =
10 10 0
10 10 0
0 0 10
But it stays another question :
What are data in the matrix ? Does the matrix defines the rigidity matrix or anything else ?
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Re: Anisotropic materials
Hi
Just a note on the syntax. If you want to rotate the material then this could work:
The order of keywords has no difference except if the same keyword appears several times.
-Peter
Just a note on the syntax. If you want to rotate the material then this could work:
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Rotate Elasticity Tensor = Logical True
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 1(3) = Real 0.7170 0.7170 0
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 2(3) = Real -0.7170 0.7170 0
Material Coordinates Unit Vector 3(3) = Real 0 0 1
-Peter